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Lore Isander
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Posted - 2007.07.15 15:19:00 -
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My vote for best PVE Command Ship goes to Astarte, mad damage, can tank lvl 4's.
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Posted - 2007.07.15 15:26:00 -
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 Originally by: NoNah
PvE - Nighthawk, for sure.
PvP - Probably Eos for solo. Most of them work great, short of possibly the amarr ones.
Nighthawk lacks the DPS so its way slower to do missions with it than it is with Astarte.
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Posted - 2007.07.15 15:30:00 -
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Please explain me how Missiles and Shield Tank make the Nighthawk the "Ultimate PVE Command Ship".
My Astarte tanked Worlds Collide and Angel Extravaganzan just fine, with the SAME fit on both (WC was Guristas/Serpentis).
And I have a feeling Astarte does twice the DPS of a Nighthawk, maybe even more.
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Posted - 2007.07.15 15:59:00 -
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Edited by: Lore Isander on 15/07/2007 16:02:05
Originally by: Venkhar Krard
Originally by: Lore Isander
Please explain me how Missiles and Shield Tank make the Nighthawk the "Ultimate PVE Command Ship".
And I have a feeling Astarte does twice the DPS of a Nighthawk, maybe even more.
And? Thats the same with the megathron and the raven.
Wrong.
Main issues with Megathron compared to Raven is the ability of hitting targets.
If the Mega could hit the targets properly, it would do the missions way faster than a Raven.
Imo, there is no point bringing Megathron/Raven comparison into this, they are completely different and use different size weaponry.
My Astarte can hit anything just fine in the missions, while doing twice (or more) the DPS of the Nighthawk and still maintaining good enough tank to do them without warping out.
So what is the problem?
1. I tank them fine, therefore there is no point saying "Nighthawk has uber tank".
2. I hit everything just fine, therefore there is no point saying "Missiles hit always or something".
3. Damage types, hmm. My double DPS should more than make up for the "wrong" damage types.
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Posted - 2007.07.15 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: IceCreamMonster
Edited by: IceCreamMonster on 15/07/2007 16:20:12
Fly both the nighthawk and astarte and find out for yourself, I did.
Really no point arguing here since people seem to have their mind set on their ship.
But if you want what I think:
1) nighthawk tanks better (with just a t2 passive tank), astarte has to sacrifice damage mods. for tanking. I'm sure you didn't have 2-3 mag. stabs when you tanked world collide and you probably had faction modules.
2) nighthawk has more range, you can start popping stuff uppon warp-in.
3) you have to admit that without having to worry about tracking ever is a plus.
4) nighthawk missiles precision kills the intercepters much faster than t2 medium drones (i have max drone skills)
5) nighthawk dps is much better than it looks on paper, don't let the number fool you. You can't directly compare dps number of missile with guns.
6) The most important of all!! nighthawk looks better and astarte looks like Jay Leno's face. 
1) Check, but no faction mods here, I had 2 damage mods in my low slots.
2) I can hit upto 35km with Navy Antimatter, worked just fine for me.
3) Well not really, my tracking wasnt much of a problem.
4) I dont need drones for those  They instapop with guns anyway
5) Ye you cant, missiles take time to fly, guns hit instantly, guns can miss, missiles dont (I still dont have issues with Medium Railgun Tracking).
6) Agreed 
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